Editing Meeting Notes 2014 02 18

Jump to navigation Jump to search
Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you log in or create an account, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.

The edit can be undone. Please check the comparison below to verify that this is what you want to do, and then publish the changes below to finish undoing the edit.

Latest revision Your text
Line 2: Line 2:
Don't forget to '''post the meeting notes to the wiki''' and e-mail the discussion list with a short summary.
Don't forget to '''post the meeting notes to the wiki''' and e-mail the discussion list with a short summary.


These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge]. Note-taker: Kevin; Moderator: Jarrod.
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge]. Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE; Moderator: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE.
* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
   
   
Line 56: Line 56:
Casey: What if we propose a 6 week break
Casey: What if we propose a 6 week break
Martin: It would be a shame to ostracize a participating member of NB. 6 weeks sounds reasonable. They said they are sorry and the tool is returned.
Martin: It would be a shame to ostracize a participating member of NB. 6 weeks sounds reasonable. They said they are sorry and the tool is returned.
Vi: I have worked with pigeon and trust them. In occupy we share our tools and I don't think they are malicious. I can vouch for their character. I think this needs mediation.
Vee: I have worked with pigeon and trust them. In occupy we share our tools and I don't think they are malicious. I can vouch for their character. I think this needs mediation.
Dan: We need to draw a line about what is acceptable. I also don't think that people ganging on robin is acceptable. You do have your tool back because it was pigeon who picked it up and not someone else.
Dan: We need to draw a line about what is acceptable. I also don't think that people ganging on robin is acceptable. You do have your tool back because it was pigeon who picked it up and not someone else.
Robin: I'll make an offer. I understand the situation, if the attacks on me are dropped i would consider.
Robin: I'll make an offer. I understand the situation, if the attacks on me are dropped i would consider.
Line 68: Line 68:


Kevin: Tom would you like to introduce the proposal.
Kevin: Tom would you like to introduce the proposal.
Tom: Lee has been harassing me for four months. I have never met them.
Tom: Lee has been harrasing me for four months. I have never met them.
Tom: Lee contacted me thru a variety of mechanisms, it was unwelcome and it persisted despite my requests for it not to.
Tom: Lee contacted me thru a variety of mechanisims, it was unwelcome and it persisted despite my requests for it not to.
John: does he know that we attend to ban him. Tom: yes, not the particular night but he has not been at any of the meetings.
John: does he know that we attend to ban him. Tom: yes, not the particular night but he has not been at any of the meetings.
Al: I think this is a clear violation of the anti-harrassment policy. I've talked with Lee personally about this over email and he does not understand "No".
Al: I think this is a clear violation of the anti-harrassment policy. We have attempted to mediate with lee and he does not understand "No".
(Kevin asks for the sense the room, sees the consensus)
(Kevin asks for the sense the room, sees the consensus)
Kevin: It is the consensus of NB Lee Sonko is unwelcome at Noisebridge. They are prohibited from entering the space or participating in the community.
Kevin: It is the consensus of NB Lee Sonko is unwelcome at Noisebridge. They are prohibited from entering the space or participating in the community.


== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
'''Ban RAYC'''
Tom: Rayc was sleeping on top of the NB elevator. He has admitted to doing this on multiple occasions. It is my belief that Rayc has used the top of the elevator as a primary sleeping location. I think this behavior is dangerous to him and the existence of Noisebridge. For this they should be banned.
Monad: wasn't the proposal for 6 months?
Rayc: I only took a nap on the elevator on the elevator twice. You stated that people were discussing this in the background. You told me that if you come to a Tuesday meeting you will probably be banned, and asked me to leave the space. I think this was a power trip, our normal procedure is to discuss this at a Tuesday meeting. I think this was the wrong way to handle this and am appalled by it.
Kevin: does anyone have questions for tom or rayc.
john: I think it is good for rayc to take a break from the space. what made you think it was acceptable?
Al: Sleeping is already frowned on. Were you trying to evade detection? Rayc: it is the warmest place to sleep Al: You made a joke about looking for new hiding places to sleep, is that related to this? Rayc:
Monad: I think you contribute, but you should take a leave with the understanding that if you do this again you will be banned with out consensus.
Howard: Why avoid detection? We have the hackerstacker?
Rayc: I didn't want to be bothered.
Kevin: This is going to move to next week.
Jon: What not have a 6 month ban proposal?
Kevin: we can have duplicate proposals. This will be settled next week.
Josh: I would propose that we give Rayc 6 months of cleaning duty.


'''PUBLISH MEMBER LIST IN OUR POLICIES GIT REPO.'''
'''PUBLISH MEMBER LIST IN OUR POLICIES GIT REPO.'''
Line 90: Line 103:
Tom: I feel that as secretary I have more that the usual power over this data and wan't to address member's privacy concerns
Tom: I feel that as secretary I have more that the usual power over this data and wan't to address member's privacy concerns


'''Only members can join the council. This also includes some clarifying re-structuring of the membership and council descriptions.'''
== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
 
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
Tom: It would be cleaner if the language of council process included membership as a step, it makes it clear that council members are also members. Now there would be members and a subset of them would be on the council.
Casey: asks for clarification of current membership process.
Kevin: My only concern is that membership should still be discussed more. This proposal glues down a policy that I still disagree with.
Tom: This would make it easier to patch the membership process.
 
'''Ban RAYC'''
 
Tom: Rayc was sleeping on top of the NB elevator. He has admitted to doing this on multiple occasions. It is my belief that Rayc has used the top of the elevator as a primary sleeping location. I think this behavior is dangerous to him and the existence of Noisebridge. For this they should be banned.
Monad: wasn't the proposal for 6 months?
Rayc: I only took a nap on the elevator on the elevator twice. You stated that people were discussing this in the background. You told me that if you come to a Tuesday meeting you will probably be banned, and asked me to leave the space. I think this was a power trip, our normal procedure is to discuss this at a Tuesday meeting. I think this was the wrong way to handle this and am appalled by it.
Kevin: does anyone have questions for tom or rayc.
john: I think it is good for rayc to take a break from the space. what made you think it was acceptable?
Al: Sleeping is already frowned on. Were you trying to evade detection? Rayc: it is the warmest place to sleep Al: You made a joke about looking for new hiding places to sleep, is that related to this? Rayc:
Monad: I think you contribute, but you should take a leave with the understanding that if you do this again you will be banned with out consensus.
Howard: Why avoid detection? We have the hackerstacker?
Rayc: I didn't want to be bothered.
Kevin: This is going to move to next week.
Jon: What not have a 6 month ban proposal?
Kevin: we can have duplicate proposals. This will be settled next week.
Josh: I would propose that we give Rayc 6 months of cleaning duty.


= Discussion Notes =
= Discussion Notes =
Line 128: Line 121:
Tom: I am a candidate, I will be at NB west later to discuss my platform.
Tom: I am a candidate, I will be at NB west later to discuss my platform.
John: The board is merely to interface with the state, not much else, is that correct?
John: The board is merely to interface with the state, not much else, is that correct?
'''Pony'''
Casey: we should install a new pony. Ron and SuperQ are working out specs and eventually take a collection. See us and them after the meeting.


= Attendance =
= Attendance =
Please note that all contributions to Noisebridge are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (see Noisebridge:Copyrights for details). If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!

To protect the wiki against automated edit spam, we kindly ask you to solve the following CAPTCHA:

Cancel Editing help (opens in new window)