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== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] == ''Al: Banning Nick from Noisebridge for sleeping overnight at the space multiple times. (Clarification: Not "Mischief" Nick, but the Nick with a beard and without glasses.) https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-December/040887.html'' Al: I have been waking up sleepers. Nick and Jean Jeaque have been found numerous times. I think banning is a necessary step to resloveing the sleeper at NB issue. Tom constrains the proposal to this particular banning proposal. I can't imagine that a person is being disruptive by sleeping. It seems cruel. Kevin: I thought we had an alternate solution, Nick claimed that Nick was not asleep. Others stated that he was awake. This sounds uncalled for. Al: There is no rule against shooting up meth. Josh: He has contributed to NB. Sleeping happens. I don't think that Nick uses NB as a place to sleep. Dan: I am not sure that Nick was asleep when he comes here. Robin: I don't see any project. Nick is not working on anything. He sits in front of the computer doing nothing. Monad: Those two are frequently here sleeping. J.C. Kevin, are you proposing an alternative. Kevin: we have proposed mediation in the past and this should be the action. Al: This keeps happening. People should be making plans to get home before they have to fall asleep. Sleepers monopolize the space they are in because we don't naturally want to be jerks and work around the person, waking them up. Tom: the critical point in this discussion is finding consensus. Kevin has objected you should work with him to find a consensus. Al: Can you actually talk to Nick and Jean Jeaque and make sure through mediation that they will not sleep here. Kevin: I will talk to them. I cannot guarantee that they will not sleep. Al: If they continue sleeping, would you support banning. Kevin: I am against anyone living here but my support of banning depends on the situation. Tom: does this work for you Al? Al: this is fine. Tom: any objections. Dan: Do not conflate Nick and Jean Jaques. Robin: Concerned about Dans tone. Nick has admitted sleeping. They are looking for an approval for sleeping. People should be working on something here. They admitted that they are sleeping here. If they come to the community saying "I am working on this project, and this is why I am sleeping here" then we can determine if they can sleep here. Tom: any objections? Greg: This solution is unspecific, and seems to be a means to putting off the issue to the future. Robin: There needs to be a neutral party involved. Kevin: We have agreed to a "talking to" not a mediation. Josh: Tom: Consensus has not been reached and is unlikely ''Al: Banning Jon Jacques from Noisebridge for sleeping overnight at the space multiple times. https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-December/040994.html'' Tabled, see above.
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