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== Consensus items == ===That Snail be President of Noisebridge=== I guess we're deferring this. We're trying to trick her into being president. Oh my. Let's queue up a discussion on personal autonomy. We're hoping for a watergate-esque scenario so she can have a convienent exit. Tom is secretly Spiro Agnew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leif is worried that we should announce it in a way such that she might actually find out we're trying to make her president. We don't usually sneak presidency on someone, it's just this once, we promise. Leif doesn't actually feel so strongly about the issue to motivate a discussion. Snail's president now. Deal with it. It is the consensus of Noisebridge that Snail is president. There will be a strait to video remake of our election process I'm sure. ===Thiel Money=== :''Previously discussed at meetings on [[Meeting Notes 2012 06 26|June 26]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 03|July 3]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 10|July 10]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 17|July 17]], and later on [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 31|July 31]].'' Danny proposes signing the grant agreement as specified [[Grants/tf2012β]]. Danny O'Brien admits his conflict of interest talking about Peter Thiel. Rachel just became moderator. Designated "Chosen One" Many moons ago, a man from a faraway land came, he called himself "Peter Thiel", claiming to have vast fortune won in the many nymwars in his home country, he offered a bounty for any hackerspace that was named "Noisebridge", offerring a.. surprisingly small amount of money (10k) so that this chosen hackerspace could... whatever, basically. Peter Thiel is not just giving this money to Noisebridge. We let him know we're serious. Apparently he can't just give money away. Zephyr can't find the text of this grant, he doesn't know very much about computers. The words "coworking" were used, we had to talk to our people and have them talk to their people about getting that changed to "hacking" or whatever. They've been contacted again in response to the grant, they understand that we don't want their money (suspicious). She said "my manager will flip his shit if theres no contract", that's verbatim. At least 4 people were mad about it last week so we decided to talk about it right now. So here we are. Reasons, rachel asks. Leif tells us that he has two objections, first and foremost, we're rich and we don't need their money in general. Too complicated to actually use. Noisebridge is "lean" and "fit". Leif points out that this actully is a contrct. Peter Thiel is a mean jerk says Leif. Delete your facebook account, close your paypal, spoof DHCP at Defcon, Reject hacker class exploitation! He also will want reports, and this is a hassle. Leif points out that we can't easily launder this money which means we'll have to document how we "wheel and deal" (as it were). Danny explains that he actually thought of this and has it covered. He knows things. No squabbling allowed. Objection your honor, calls for speculation. (basically). In all seriousness, we have to do what is in the contract which actually is something that people can enforce. Explains that they pretty much don't care anyway and their cool with us doing whatever with it. Believe Danny. Wants to secretly go to court. Rachel asks the terms of the contract to use our name. Dealings with the devil afoot? Rachel is worried about us making Peter Thiel more legit. They will use our name so we just have to deal with it. Leif is guilt tripping us now. Our prudent reserve needs to increase, if it's formal or otherwise the Thiel Foundation can claim support of Noisebridge irrespective of the legal framework of the agreement. Erics requests us to "play hardball" Are we about to take "tobacco money". Cans of worms have been opened!!!! Eric would rather sit out on the sidewalk than take money from that Peter Thiel guy. We don't not make judgements about people giving us money, we're very accepting in that way. We should put our checks up for blockability. Thats what it says. It's been revealed that Noisebridge is supported by drug deals. Rachel points out that our membership has steadily increased. We're facing the challenge every mid-life rock band faces - Do we sell out or go big on a major label (or charitable foundation, as the case may be) Leif is not unilaterally blocking but he's disappointed in us. Maybe we should talk more. Noisebridge cannot help Peter Thiel find religion, although "That would be awesome" PHOENIX WRIGHT OUT OF LEFT FIELD, TOM DELIVERS HARD HITTING LEGAL COMMENTARY. Tom finds no difference between the contract and the check. Tom would like us to take the money and "stash it away" in a swiss bank/bitcoin wallet/copper pennies. Tom refuses to withdraw! Looks like we're going to talk about it some more. Danny reasonably suspects that they're getting tired of our stuff. Though sympathetic against the counterarguments, Danny thinks we should do this. People might think that turning down money is kindof weird, even if it's from Peter Thiel and his army of demons. FLASH FROM THE PAST: Remember when Mitch boycotted Maker Faire. Danny works with Peter Thiel and thinks he's a cool guy. Has "a relationship with him". I'll just leave it at that. Doesn't want to personally be in a situation where we make statues out of shit. JZ says that he cares about Noisebridge and just wants us to do something cool. Quotes Kierkegaard. Is Noisebridge a person? He's cashing checks but now he's entering a contract! Where will the madness end! Leif stands aside. Za stands inside. Za explains that PT started a company to do some nasty stuff. Maybe we should have a bar? PT must repent for his sins before _______ (insert deity) !!!!! (by giving us 10k) Objections being raised are about PT's personal record, could be irrelevant? Noisebridge could become a laboratory for military computing. Do we want people to think this is a lab to hire hackers in??!??!? Certainly not. The contract is a trap. Danny is getting impatient. I'm just going to stop writing for a little while, this is embarrassing. A man wiser than myself once said "Once many men are making a decision, it will soon be that noone will" Conclusion: deferred until [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 31|next week]]. === Proposals from last week === === Proposals for next week === Danny seeking deposition of Snail. Allegations of impropriety as president.
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