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[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 216th Meeting of Noisebridge] | [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 216th Meeting of Noisebridge] | ||
Note-taker: Jehan | Note-taker: Jehan, http://piratepad.net/Fh8nv2KgDL | ||
Moderator: Malaclyps | Moderator: Malaclyps | ||
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== Introduction and Names == | == Introduction and Names == | ||
* | * Cynthia: keeps place going | ||
* John: Hacking on Biomonitoring | |||
* Michele: French? | |||
* Robert: Linux, DBs | |||
* Ava: Visiting | |||
* Julian: Spectator | |||
* Liz: Hangs out sometimes | |||
* Miloh: Circuit hacking and replicating | |||
* Jared: Machine Learning, Hadoop | |||
* Will: 5mof | |||
Cynthia: keeps place going | * Corey & Marnia: Robo-Gardens | ||
John: Hacking on Biomonitoring | |||
Michele: French? | |||
Robert: Linux, DBs | |||
Ava: Visiting | |||
Julian: Spectator | |||
Liz: Hangs out sometimes | |||
Miloh: Circuit hacking and replicating | |||
Jared: Machine Learning, Hadoop | |||
Will: 5mof | |||
Corey & Marnia: Robo-Gardens | |||
== Short Announcements == | == Short Announcements == | ||
* Daniella- Great idea, provisional patents. Entering tech awards. In Santa Clara, third party recipiant = NB! | * Daniella- Great idea, provisional patents. Entering tech awards. In Santa Clara, third party recipiant = NB! | ||
* Intro to Linux one night a month. Non techie. Will be posted. | * Intro to Linux one night a month. Non techie. Will be posted. | ||
* Hard drive enclosures, internet archive, new fund. Archive.org | * Hard drive enclosures, internet archive, new fund. Archive.org | ||
== New or Stale Events == | == New or Stale Events == | ||
* R started Ruby collaborative mondays 5 oclock | * R started Ruby collaborative mondays 5 oclock | ||
* Thursdays 5mof, looking for speakers. Talk about mother or interpretive dance. | * Thursdays 5mof, looking for speakers. Talk about mother or interpretive dance. | ||
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== [[Membership Binder]] == | == [[Membership Binder]] == | ||
* Zephyr | * Zephyr | ||
* Blake Griffis 4 | * Blake Griffis 4 | ||
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* Funds in bank: | * Funds in bank: | ||
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary): | * Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary): | ||
* | ** There are $2101.33 earmarked NoiseTor funds | ||
** Colo service has been paid through Jun 7, 2012 | |||
** There are enough funds to pay for an additional 2 months of colo | |||
** This information was updated at Tue May 15 20:21:07 2012 | |||
== Consensus items == | == Consensus items == | ||
You may wish to '''invite a knowledgeable volunteer to repeat '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on the consensus process]]. | You may wish to '''invite a knowledgeable volunteer to repeat '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on the consensus process]]. | ||
=== Proposals from last week === | === Proposals from last week === | ||
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=== Proposals for next week === | === Proposals for next week === | ||
* Continue Cleaning service or not? | |||
Add 70 minute limit on meetings | Add 70 minute limit on meetings | ||
Select Time-Keeper = Miloh | Select Time-Keeper = Miloh | ||
== Discussion Items == | == Discussion Items == | ||
* Additional: Cleaning Service- Have we gotten a good deal? Should we continue? | * Additional: Cleaning Service- Have we gotten a good deal? Should we continue? | ||
* DIY bio: 10 minutes | * DIY bio: 10 minutes | ||
** 2 refrigerators | |||
** Full of papayas, now empty, group tried to throw it out. | |||
** Does anyone want fridge? | |||
* 5MoF Pitch | * 5MoF Pitch | ||
* "R" (edited to "R" after meeting to avoid linking an individual's initials to an embarrassing series of events -Jehan) discussion | * "R" (edited to "R" after meeting to avoid linking an individual's initials to an embarrassing series of events -Jehan) discussion | ||
** Gavin Says: | |||
*** Threatened to kill other members | |||
*** Tony felt uncomfortable because of other members- i.e. R | |||
*** Support or help R? | |||
*** Traditional option is mediation | |||
*** R has made some threats to someone at Noisebridge -- safety could be a concern to some people | |||
*** Mediation hasn't worked for at least one person. | |||
** R Says: | |||
*** Truly appreciates community | |||
*** Takes responsibility for what has happened | |||
*** Admits was in wrong | |||
*** Lack of communication with parties involved | |||
*** Cycle of wronggness | |||
**** Drunk | |||
**** Drunk during meeting as well | |||
**** Not as jovial as usual | |||
** Tony came up to R in agressive way | |||
*** Would not let him speak | |||
*** told R to suck cock | |||
*** R suggested inverse cock sucking relationship | |||
*** Many cocksucking suggestions were made, according to Kayla | |||
*** Kayla gives a very vivid description of the cock-sucking language used | |||
*** Cocksucking story may be wrong according to R | |||
*** No Cocksucking after all | |||
*** Kayla just wants to say that R does many positive things around the space as well | |||
** Miloh is pissed about R 2.0 | |||
*** Hacking and not finishing | |||
*** Miloh says R should leave for month | |||
*** R doesn't finish his projects, and only makes a mess. | |||
** Daniella says give him a second chance. | |||
** Kayla says 2 week hiatus | |||
** Will has never had problem with him personally- but when he has heard problems they involve alchohol (mild claps) | |||
*** No drinking in space for some people | |||
*** Some people do not believe that the details should be in notes. | |||
*** Kayla recieved text claiming to be proxying for Tony | |||
** Zephyr has had a few problems with R and feels that the solutions are appropriate | |||
** Gavin says what about an email list? Mediators as admins. | |||
** Jim says that he doesnt like the idea that R leaves. Likes no drinking. | |||
** Liz says we should support R if you haven't had problems with him | |||
** Ramone says taking break from place is not solution, mediation is good solution type thing, not super opposed to break. But it's not direct solution. | |||
** Kayla says brief hiatus from NB can be good. | |||
** R says it's a good idea. If it makes people feel comfortable. He is willing to take a break from the space for a month. | |||
** Miloh says that R can't argue with charges. It is sexual harassment (of tony) | |||
** R says that Kayla's credibility on alleged cocksucking comments should be disputed. | |||
** R says: He is not agaisnt anyone for any sexual orientation. Has numerous gay friends and roomates. (loud arguing) (5 minute break) | |||
** (meeting recommences) | |||
** More to it than is on the board: Complicated proposal: | |||
*** Bad for NB as whole to tell ppl to leave and send them off | |||
*** Spending some time away can be good in general and good for R in particular | |||
*** People feel that it is bad to explain things to R because there can be confrontation | |||
*** People think that R should spend time away but that they feel that he should not be asked to spend time away | |||
*** People feel that it is good to ask him to not be drunk (and rowdy) in NB | |||
*** Does the space need to have a no shitfacedness policy? | |||
*** Claudia agrees | |||
*** A few people disagree | |||
*** Group feeling is that drunkeness is an essential NB ingredient | |||
*** Alot of people love R, and the events, and the hour long meeting is a tragedy | |||
*** R agrees with the above. | |||
*** Miloh advocates for 10 week break | |||
*** MC Hawking says 20 weeks | |||
*** No real consensus | |||
*** R says that he would be comfortable taking month off | |||
**** We should work out way to co-exist | |||
**** Space may not be big enough for both R and Gavin | |||
**** R intends to take legal action about above slander as he alleges | |||
*** Is 4 weeks too long? | |||
*** 3 weeks as a medium between 2 weeks (hippie mob who is kindly) 4 weeks (r in his self-flagellation) | |||
** Conclusions: | |||
*** 3 week break and no drinking for R | |||
*** Community can drink R's beers. | |||
*** R can drink water, and eat ice cream | |||
*** Hippie group therapy and avengers movie counseling | |||
**** R insists no problem with "homophilia" | |||
**** Whoa, R may be drinking in the corner. But agrees not to drink. | |||
**** R wants Noisebridge Postcard, sounds like a good idea | |||
**** but wait, this isn't democratic process. | |||
**** We're not a democracy dammit. | |||
**** This shoudl be voluntary for R (it is) | |||
**** We're not the fucking police (goddamn right) | |||
**** At the age of 7 R was diagnosed with Posttraumatic stress. This has haunted | |||
**** Noisebridge demands new Icecream diet for R | |||
**** let's mediate bro | |||
**** Our fearless temporary spokesperson demands 3 weeks. | |||
* Bio hacking. papayas. on thursday people tried to throw out the broken fridge. something something rotten papayas. What? | |||
*** Miloh says it's just that we had 2 fridges. it is not a bio hacking thing at all. at least sell the fridge to benefit the space. | |||
*** jesse - suggestion that something about biohacking.... ? | |||
*** Oh. okay jesse is actually saying, Does Noisebridge NOT have a problem with diy bio hacking? | |||
*** This doesn't make sense, both fridges wer | |||
EOF | |||
[[Category:Meeting Notes]] | [[Category:Meeting Notes]] |
Revision as of 00:34, 16 May 2012
Agenda
The 216th Meeting of Noisebridge
Note-taker: Jehan, http://piratepad.net/Fh8nv2KgDL
Moderator: Malaclyps
Introduction and Names
- Cynthia: keeps place going
- John: Hacking on Biomonitoring
- Michele: French?
- Robert: Linux, DBs
- Ava: Visiting
- Julian: Spectator
- Liz: Hangs out sometimes
- Miloh: Circuit hacking and replicating
- Jared: Machine Learning, Hadoop
- Will: 5mof
- Corey & Marnia: Robo-Gardens
Short Announcements
- Daniella- Great idea, provisional patents. Entering tech awards. In Santa Clara, third party recipiant = NB!
- Intro to Linux one night a month. Non techie. Will be posted.
- Hard drive enclosures, internet archive, new fund. Archive.org
New or Stale Events
- R started Ruby collaborative mondays 5 oclock
- Thursdays 5mof, looking for speakers. Talk about mother or interpretive dance.
- Maker Faire this weekend- Page on wiki to sign up and volunteer, talk to Chris Lincoln.
Membership Binder
- Zephyr
- Blake Griffis 4
- Daniel Jabour 4
- Aspen 4
- Tobias 4
- Jim Sweet needs 2 sponsors
Financial Report
- Funds in bank:
- Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
- There are $2101.33 earmarked NoiseTor funds
- Colo service has been paid through Jun 7, 2012
- There are enough funds to pay for an additional 2 months of colo
- This information was updated at Tue May 15 20:21:07 2012
Consensus items
You may wish to invite a knowledgeable volunteer to repeat a brief primer on the consensus process.
Proposals from last week
(Add any items which pass or are blocked to the Consensus Items History page.)
Proposals for next week
- Continue Cleaning service or not?
Add 70 minute limit on meetings
Select Time-Keeper = Miloh
Discussion Items
- Additional: Cleaning Service- Have we gotten a good deal? Should we continue?
- DIY bio: 10 minutes
- 2 refrigerators
- Full of papayas, now empty, group tried to throw it out.
- Does anyone want fridge?
- 5MoF Pitch
- "R" (edited to "R" after meeting to avoid linking an individual's initials to an embarrassing series of events -Jehan) discussion
- Gavin Says:
- Threatened to kill other members
- Tony felt uncomfortable because of other members- i.e. R
- Support or help R?
- Traditional option is mediation
- R has made some threats to someone at Noisebridge -- safety could be a concern to some people
- Mediation hasn't worked for at least one person.
- R Says:
- Truly appreciates community
- Takes responsibility for what has happened
- Admits was in wrong
- Lack of communication with parties involved
- Cycle of wronggness
- Drunk
- Drunk during meeting as well
- Not as jovial as usual
- Tony came up to R in agressive way
- Would not let him speak
- told R to suck cock
- R suggested inverse cock sucking relationship
- Many cocksucking suggestions were made, according to Kayla
- Kayla gives a very vivid description of the cock-sucking language used
- Cocksucking story may be wrong according to R
- No Cocksucking after all
- Kayla just wants to say that R does many positive things around the space as well
- Miloh is pissed about R 2.0
- Hacking and not finishing
- Miloh says R should leave for month
- R doesn't finish his projects, and only makes a mess.
- Daniella says give him a second chance.
- Kayla says 2 week hiatus
- Will has never had problem with him personally- but when he has heard problems they involve alchohol (mild claps)
- No drinking in space for some people
- Some people do not believe that the details should be in notes.
- Kayla recieved text claiming to be proxying for Tony
- Zephyr has had a few problems with R and feels that the solutions are appropriate
- Gavin says what about an email list? Mediators as admins.
- Jim says that he doesnt like the idea that R leaves. Likes no drinking.
- Liz says we should support R if you haven't had problems with him
- Ramone says taking break from place is not solution, mediation is good solution type thing, not super opposed to break. But it's not direct solution.
- Kayla says brief hiatus from NB can be good.
- R says it's a good idea. If it makes people feel comfortable. He is willing to take a break from the space for a month.
- Miloh says that R can't argue with charges. It is sexual harassment (of tony)
- R says that Kayla's credibility on alleged cocksucking comments should be disputed.
- R says: He is not agaisnt anyone for any sexual orientation. Has numerous gay friends and roomates. (loud arguing) (5 minute break)
- (meeting recommences)
- More to it than is on the board: Complicated proposal:
- Bad for NB as whole to tell ppl to leave and send them off
- Spending some time away can be good in general and good for R in particular
- People feel that it is bad to explain things to R because there can be confrontation
- People think that R should spend time away but that they feel that he should not be asked to spend time away
- People feel that it is good to ask him to not be drunk (and rowdy) in NB
- Does the space need to have a no shitfacedness policy?
- Claudia agrees
- A few people disagree
- Group feeling is that drunkeness is an essential NB ingredient
- Alot of people love R, and the events, and the hour long meeting is a tragedy
- R agrees with the above.
- Miloh advocates for 10 week break
- MC Hawking says 20 weeks
- No real consensus
- R says that he would be comfortable taking month off
- We should work out way to co-exist
- Space may not be big enough for both R and Gavin
- R intends to take legal action about above slander as he alleges
- Is 4 weeks too long?
- 3 weeks as a medium between 2 weeks (hippie mob who is kindly) 4 weeks (r in his self-flagellation)
- Conclusions:
- 3 week break and no drinking for R
- Community can drink R's beers.
- R can drink water, and eat ice cream
- Hippie group therapy and avengers movie counseling
- R insists no problem with "homophilia"
- Whoa, R may be drinking in the corner. But agrees not to drink.
- R wants Noisebridge Postcard, sounds like a good idea
- but wait, this isn't democratic process.
- We're not a democracy dammit.
- This shoudl be voluntary for R (it is)
- We're not the fucking police (goddamn right)
- At the age of 7 R was diagnosed with Posttraumatic stress. This has haunted
- Noisebridge demands new Icecream diet for R
- let's mediate bro
- Our fearless temporary spokesperson demands 3 weeks.
- Gavin Says:
- Bio hacking. papayas. on thursday people tried to throw out the broken fridge. something something rotten papayas. What?
- Miloh says it's just that we had 2 fridges. it is not a bio hacking thing at all. at least sell the fridge to benefit the space.
- jesse - suggestion that something about biohacking.... ?
- Oh. okay jesse is actually saying, Does Noisebridge NOT have a problem with diy bio hacking?
- This doesn't make sense, both fridges wer
EOF