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[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 207th Meeting of Noisebridge]
[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 207th Meeting of Noisebridge]


Note-taker: [[User:wsargent|Will]]
Note-taker: [[user:wsargent]]


Moderator: [[User:flamsmark|Tom]]
Moderator: [[User:Tom]]
   
   
== Introduction ==
== Introduction and Names ==


* "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
* "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
* '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.
* '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.
* Tom explains moderation process including finger waggling and one sentence responses
* Tom explains moderation process including finger waggling and one sentence responses
* A mechanical sunflower is demonstrated, much ooo-ing ensues.
* Round of introductions (remember, announcements come later):
 
== Names ==


* Tom (works for Mozilla)
* Tom (works for Mozilla)
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* Miloh ( cool flower)
* Miloh ( cool flower)
* Erica  
* Erica  
* Lily
* Emily?
* Carl working on iphone app
* Carl working on iphone app
* Rayc
* Rayc
* Lief
* Lief
* Xena
* Xena
* Will (5mof, apparently career councilling / consoling)
* [More people who names I did not get]
* [More people who names I did not get]


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== New or Stale Events ==
== New or Stale Events ==


* [[Five Minutes of Fame]] is coming up week after next.  Speakers wanted.  
* Five Minutes of Fame is coming up week after next.  Speakers wanted.  
* No contact info with the Free University -- the PKD event, do we know who they are?  Email?
* No contact info with the Free University -- the PKD event, do we know who they are?  Email?
* Useless dead tree publication (aka Zine) is still ongoing.
* Useless dead tree publication (aka Zine) is still ongoing.
* DR WHEN GAME: SuperQ was sponsor, people showed up for the game but no happen. Looking for a new sponsor: email discuss for more details.
* DR WHEN GAME: SuperQ was sponsor, people showed up for the game but no happen. Looking for a new sponsor: email discuss for more details.
* Some discussion about taking Hackmeet, Replication stuff and Tastebridge off upcoming events.


== [[Membership Binder]] ==
== [[Membership Binder]] ==
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* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
** $3432.37 paid
$3432.37  
** $16290.84 total
$16290.84
** colo service paid through March 7th.
colo service paid through March 7th.
** funds for 4 months of service.
funds for 4 months of service.


* Kitchen stuff
Ben turned off a bunch of kitchen stuff to see how much power they consume.
** Ben turned off a bunch of kitchen stuff to see how much power they consume.
Breaking news, PGE is lame.
** Breaking news, PGE is lame.
Powergraph for last three months.
** Powergraph for last three months.
- Bursts of power through the night, dead period between 2 and 6.
** Bursts of power through the night, dead period between 2 and 6.
- Baseline power on Saturday 2kw/H for two hours between 7 am to 9 am.
**  Baseline power on Saturday 2kw/H for two hours between 7 am to 9 am.
- Kitchen clearly shows over baseline.
**  Kitchen clearly shows over baseline.
- Ben and Kelly will do Science to it.
** Ben and Kelly will do Science to it.


== Consensus items ==
== Consensus items ==
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=== Proposals from last week ===
=== Proposals from last week ===


Old ass proposal on the list that was not cleaned up:
Some old ass proposals on the list weren't cleaned up:


* That Noisebridge reimburse Mr SuperQ for the remainder of the cost of the wire trays, after donations this week. (Wire trays cost $930, donations so far $100). SuperQ will write to the noisebridge-discuss list and the treasurer and the treasurer will take care of it. C0NSENSED.
* That Noisebridge reimburse Mr SuperQ for the remainder of the cost of the wire trays, after donations this week. (Wire trays cost $930, donations so far $100). SuperQ will write to the noisebridge-discuss list and the treasurer and the treasurer will take care of it. C0NSENSED.
* That Noisebridge reimburse Mitch for 6,000 Noisebridge stickers that he bought and paid for from Sticker Giant. 3,000 small Noisebridge stickers: $333.91 + 3,000 large Noisebridge stickers: $421.17 + shipping: $20 -- Total: $775.08 CONSENSED.


=== Proposals for next week ===
=== Proposals for next week ===


* That Noisebridge reimburse Mitch for 6,000 Noisebridge stickers that he bought and paid for from Sticker Giant. 3,000 small Noisebridge stickers: $333.91 + 3,000 large Noisebridge stickers: $421.17 + shipping: $20 -- Total: $775.08
None.
** NOTE: Mitch added this originally as 2012-02-04 but it was actually added in the middle of last week.


== Discussion Items ==
== Discussion Items ==
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** Gavin: many things could cause the reaction in autistic people.
** Gavin: many things could cause the reaction in autistic people.
** Kath: Jesse approached K, was clearly informed of autism.  Refused to acknowledge gender, "wildly insane and retarded" in interaction.
** Kath: Jesse approached K, was clearly informed of autism.  Refused to acknowledge gender, "wildly insane and retarded" in interaction.
** Rayc: She started crying before any of that happened, when Jesse asked Nyle to leave the space respectively.  Was sitting NEXT to Nyle.  He was helping the Nyle thing, that's when it happened.
** Rayc: She started crying before any of that happened, when Jesse asked Niall to leave the space respectively.  Was sitting NEXT to Niall.  He was helping the Niall thing, that's when it happened.
** Kath: Nyle is one of the first people she started interacted with.  Was afraid, based on previous interaction.  "Just wanted to be Jesse's friend."
** Kath: Niall is one of the first people she started interacted with.  Was afraid, based on previous interaction.  "Just wanted to be Jesse's friend."
** Jesse arrives.
** Jesse arrives.
** Jesse: interaction with Nyle at the gate, not wanting to let him in.  N wanted to get his stuff, "Is N in trouble?" J: "Not in trouble, he needs to hang out somewhere else."  J: "Be a good thing to come to one of these meetings."
** Jesse: interaction with Niall at the gate, not wanting to let him in.  N wanted to get his stuff, "Is N in trouble?" J: "Not in trouble, he needs to hang out somewhere else."  J: "Be a good thing to come to one of these meetings."
** J: The "retarded" conversation happened the previous day.
** J: The "retarded" conversation happened the previous day.
** J: Katherine did not want Jesse to talk to person.  J not sure about gender talking to K.
** J: Katherine did not want Jesse to talk to person.  J not sure about gender talking to K.
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** Justin: I have dealt with this by email, okay to read email from the discuss-list?
** Justin: I have dealt with this by email, okay to read email from the discuss-list?
** Rayc: Justin was banging dishes and was asked to leave the space.  Nick, Eric, Zach all agreed that Justin was out of countrol and should leave the space.  Eric and Nick asked him to leave, Pearl overheard the yelling in kitchen, another one was recording the entire incident.  The whole thing was recorded on video.  Rayc didn't ask him to leave directly.  He was spit on by Justin.
** Rayc: Justin was banging dishes and was asked to leave the space.  Nick, Eric, Zach all agreed that Justin was out of countrol and should leave the space.  Eric and Nick asked him to leave, Pearl overheard the yelling in kitchen, another one was recording the entire incident.  The whole thing was recorded on video.  Rayc didn't ask him to leave directly.  He was spit on by Justin.
** Miloh: did you spit on him?  Were you drunk in the space?
Miloh: did you spit on him?  Were you drunk in the space?
** Justin: I feel that if an individual makes a mistake, even if it is technically a criminal activity, he should have the right to continue coming to the space.  I did some things that were irresponsible.  I did not feel guilty or ashamed or repressed about any of it, but I will only feel bad if I repeat that offense, and I would only do that again if I felt those feeling again.  I personally felt like I was being mistreated.  The only reason I got up and left was because Pearl came up and nicely told me I was causing drama.  I think that that's more than fair when dealing with people from the occupy movement -- I can go up and yell at people and they're not going to be co-operative about it.
Justin: I feel that if an individual makes a mistake, even if it is technically a criminal activity, he should have the right to continue coming to the space.  I did some things that were irresponsible.  I did not feel guilty or ashamed or repressed about any of it, but I will only feel bad if I repeat that offense, and I would only do that again if I felt those feeling again.  I personally felt like I was being mistreated.  The only reason I got up and left was because Pearl came up and nicely told me I was causing drama.  I think that that's more than fair when dealing with people from the occupy movement -- I can go up and yell at people and they're not going to be co-operative about it.
** Tom: This is not an issue that can be resolved at this meeting.  I am asking that you do not return until mediation is complete.
Tom: This is not an issue that can be resolved at this meeting.  I am asking that you do not return until meditation is complete.
** Justin: that's a fair proposal, but I don't want to force mediation unless both parties agree with it. And if rayc doesn't want to engage in it, then I don't want to talk  
Justin: that's a fair proposal, but I don't want to force mediation unless both parties agree with it. And if rayc doesn't want to engage in it, then I don't want to talk  
** (Much crosstalk)
(Much crosstalk)
** Tom: It may take some time before this can be meditated.
Tom: It may take some time before this can be meditated.
** Rayc: it took 4 people to get him to leave the space.
Rayc: it took 4 people to get him to leave the space.
** Tom: I am volunteering to mediate between you two.  For the next week, Justin does not return until mediation has concluded.
Tom: I am volunteering to mediate between you two.  For the next week, Justin does not return until mediation has concluded.
** Rayc: No.
Rayc: No.
** Tom: would you feel safe if justin did not return until after mediation process  
Tom: would you feel safe if justin did not return until after mediation process  
** Rayc: possibility of mediation is out there, but Justin does not return until meditation is completed.
Rayc: possibility of mediation is out there, but Justin does not return until meditation is completed.
** Justin: has a better idea - he just leaves Rayc alone and he hasn't burned all his social bridges.
Justin: has a better idea - he just leaves Rayc alone and he hasn't burned all his social bridges.
** Tom: You should not be in the space until Rayc feels safe.
Tom: You should not be in the space until Rayc feels safe.
** Rayc: wants to leave for five minutes.
Rayc: wants to leave for five minutes.
** Miloh: Rayc and Justin -- take a break from Noisebridge, both of you, you've been in fights
Miloh: Rayc and Justin -- take a break from Noisebridge, both of you, you've been in fights
** Rayc: is not happy with this idea.
Rayc: is not happy with this idea.
** Tom: Miloh is asking if you would LIKE to leave, Justin is being TOLD to leave.  
Tom: Miloh is asking if you would LIKE to leave, Justin is being TOLD to leave.  
** Justin says he feels it's wrong that he made two mistakes and is being told to leave as a result, as he feels everyone makes mistakes sometimes.
Justin says he feels it's wrong that he made two mistakes and is being told to leave as a result, as he feels everyone makes mistakes sometimes.
** Tom: says assaulted twice, sounds like a good reason.
Tom: says assaulted twice, sounds like a good reason.
** BritishGuy: Justin has described himself as alcohol, no treatment, a good place to start might be treatment.
BritishGuy: Justin has described himself as alcohol, no treatment, a good place to start might be treatment.
** Tom: wrap up, please don't leave until speaking to both people.
Tom: wrap up, please don't leave until speaking to both people.
** Meanwhile, RMS is in the back ACTUALLY HACKING.
Meanwhile, RMS is in the back ACTUALLY HACKING.


== End of Meeting ==
== End of Meeting ==
* Yay?


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[[Category:Meeting Notes]]
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