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* make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* speak minimally themselves
* speak minimally themselves
* keep the meeting moving! you're in charge of summarizing the consensus, and/or suggesting things that need to be done!
* keep the meeting moving! you're in charge of summarising the consensus, and/or suggesting things that need to be done!
* get the membership binders and ensure they are returned to the black desk
* get the membership binders and ensure they are returned to the black desk


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* Kelly - treasurer
* Kelly - treasurer
* Erica - CONCERNED ABOUT THE KITCHEN (happy valentine's day y'all)
* Erica - CONCERNED ABOUT THE KITCHEN (happy valentine's day y'all)
* Zephyr - mathematician
* Zephyr - works in math
* Lilly - Uses the space to learn new things
* Lilly - Uses the space to learn new things
* Jesse - likes^H^H^H^H loves computers
* Jesse - likes^H^H^H^H loves computers
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Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short!
Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short!


* Tony, Gavin and Zephyr have put together a zine of some sort, it has anarchist and capitalist and jovialism and at least some asm.
* You can buy a zine of some sort, it has anarchist and capitalist and jovialism and at least some asm.
* Skye, Zephyr and Alex have a new Hacker place called "Cyberia" on Market St; hackers/artists/musicians make rad things
* Skye has a new Hacker place called "Cyberia" on Market St; hackers/artists/musicians make rad things
* Phrack High Council and ZFO need your help in subverting the corporatist white hat system of control.
* Phrack High council? help subvert white hat system (please fix this entire here)
* Alex - Code Hero Kickstarter project - has 14k so far, might not make it to 100k, please help get the word out [[http://primerlabs.com/kickstarter kickstarter link]]  
* Alex - Code Hero Kickstarter project - has 14k so far, might not make it to 100k, please help get the word out [[http://primerlabs.com/kickstarter kickstarter link]]  
* Conference where content is produced by people in conference [[Represent_Yourself|Conference]]
* Conference where content is produced by people in conference [[Represent_Yourself|Conference]]
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Jake: Mailing list differ with my opinion on what noisebridge is for
Jake: Mailing list differ with my opinion on what noisebridge is for
One night - guy (James) says he's not responsible for anyone he brings in - jake feels people should be accountable for who they bring to noisebridge, James says "noisebridge is a public place, anybody can come here anytime"
One night - guy on mailing list says he's not responsible for anyone he brings in - jake feels people should be accountable for who they bring to noisebridge, mailinglistguy says "noisebridge is a public place, anybody can come here anytime"
James also said "noisebridge used to be about communications/hacking, now about occupy and using the kitchen". last night jake told James we were having a meeting tonight, and that he should attend, but he couldn't make it. jake encouraged him to write a note to the meeting, which also didn't happen.
mailinglistguy said "noisebridge used to be about communications/hacking, now about occupy and using the kitchen". last night jake told mailinglistguy we were having a meeting tonight, and that he should attend, but he couldn't make it. jake encouraged him to write a note to the meeting, which also didn't happen.
guy left around 2 today?
guy left around 2 today?


Zephyr: has been coming here a while, but doesn't want to come lately because of non-hacker groups - if you come to a hacker space, you should be hacking. if you're not a hacker, leave. feels a marked decline; less people taking us seriously
Zephyr: has been coming here a while, but doesn't want to come lately because of non-hacker groups - if you come to a hacker space, you should be hacking. if you're not a hacker, leave. feels a market decline; less people taking us seriously


Rayc: Al Sweigart started this thing, where you can save food by writing your name on it and keeping it here - sign on the refrigerator  
Rayc: Al Zwyggr(?) started this thing, where you can save food by writing your name on it and keeping it here - sign on the refrigerator  
this has been abused - we can not use it for original purpose (storing kombucha and brews)
this has been abused - we can not use it for original purpose (storing kombucha and brews)
Fridge should be fair game for anybody if food is left there.
Fridge should be fair game for anybody if food is left there.


Miloh: Suggests Rayc has no idea what he's talking about.
Miloh: Doesn't support saying anything in fridge is fair game, does support limited time for food


Josh: Response to zephyr - we are interested in aspiring hackers
Josh: Response to zephyr - we are interested in aspiring hackers
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Kelly: Problem: We used to have small community, but now there is a subcommunity of people who have never been to tuesday night meetings/wiki/mailing list, we have no way of communicating with them. I have spent the past couple of weeks trying to meet people, having uncomfortable conversations. Also worked on [[Rooster_Brigade]]. "Snitches get stitches" It is okay to talk openly about people with behavior that is concerning. Maybe if we talk openly about these people we can see them as human beings.
Kelly: Problem: We used to have small community, but now there is a subcommunity of people who have never been to tuesday night meetings/wiki/mailing list, we have no way of communicating with them. I have spent the past couple of weeks trying to meet people, having uncomfortable conversations. Also worked on [[Rooster_Brigade]]. "Snitches get stitches" It is okay to talk openly about people with behavior that is concerning. Maybe if we talk openly about these people we can see them as human beings.


Zephyr: Exiled [[86#Jon(athan)|Jon]], received hostility for doing this. We need to be more trusting of people in Noisebridge to determine who is an oogle.
Zephyr: Exiled [[86|John]], received hostility for doing this. We need to be more trusting of people in Noisebridge to determine who is an oogle.


(?1): We need more input from oogles, because i felt awkward about having this discussion about hypothetical people, we haven't really heard from any of these "oogles". James, Delta, Ashley  
(?1): We need more input from oogles, because i felt awkward about having this discussion about hypothetical people, we haven't really heard from any of these "oogles". James, Delta, Ashley  
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Kelly suggests we defer food to another meeting. Talk more about people this week. No one objects. [[Rayc]] will add fridge as discussion for next week.
Kelly suggests we defer food to another meeting. Talk more about people this week. No one objects. [[Rayc]] will add fridge as discussion for next week.


Shannon: Response to amber: wish i had said what i was going to say earlier: every soup kitchen in tenderloin is full of people who are willing to listen to sermon to get a meal — it seems like we have people who are learning to talk like hackers so they can use our kitchen.
Shannon: Response to amber: wish i had said what i was going to say earlier: every soup kitchen in tenderloin is full of people who are willing to listen to sermon to get a meal — it seems like we have "hackers" who are learning to hack to use our kitchen.


(?3): Response to amber: Specifically, this space is about the creative use of technology. Consistent voice for noisebridge: we should do things in the realm of technology. We don't feel Astrology is the same thing.
(?3): Response to amber: Specifically, this space is about the creative use of technology. Consistent voice for noisebridge: we should do things in the realm of technology. We don't feel Astrology is the same thing.
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Nick: First came to Noisebridge 6 months ago, before politics and drama. Seems to be a steady decline since I've been here. I believe we are far venturing from being a hackerspace, because we have a narrow definition of hacking. I spend most of my time in the woodshop making random stuff, and there's nothing wrong with me doing that. There's not much technology involved: I'm using my passion for working in my hands to hack in my own way.
Nick: First came to Noisebridge 6 months ago, before politics and drama. Seems to be a steady decline since I've been here. I believe we are far venturing from being a hackerspace, because we have a narrow definition of hacking. I spend most of my time in the woodshop making random stuff, and there's nothing wrong with me doing that. There's not much technology involved: I'm using my passion for working in my hands to hack in my own way.


Kelly: We should avoid discussion of defining [[hack|hacking]]. If there's someone in the space who is doing something that they think is hacking but you disagree, we should all talk about it.
Kelly: We should avoid discussion of defining [[Hacking]]. If there's someone in the space who is doing something that they think is hacking but you disagree, we should all talk about it.


Astrology is an enemy of hackers. It's a fundamentally unscientific approach of dealing with problems.
Astrology is an enemy of hackers. It's a fundamentally unscientific approach of dealing with problems.
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(1?): I don't object to the idea that we can hack with food, but I see people coming who are just here to eat, not to foodhack.  
(1?): I don't object to the idea that we can hack with food, but I see people coming who are just here to eat, not to foodhack.  


Tom: we have open question of what hacking is, and discussion of this is not open to this meeting
Tom: we have open question of what [[Hacking]] is, and discussion of this is not open to this meeting


Shannon would love to lead a discussion of what hacking at on Wednesday (tomorrow) at 8pm.
Shannon would love to lead a discussion of what [[Hacking]] at on Wednesday (tomorrow) at 8pm.


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