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* Tom -- fight for the user
* Tom -- fight for the user
* Danny -- I'm writing this
* Danny -- I'm writing this
* Jared -- Used to be around more, wants to come back more
* Jerod -- Used to be around more, back more often
* Rebecca -- mostly sews
* Rebecca -- mostly sews
* Corey -- makes mistakes
* Corey -- makes mistakes
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Daravinne says 5mof! Come to [http://5mof.net/] and sign up for speaking. Weird, and/or naked.
Daravinne says 5mof! Come to [http://5mof.net/] and sign up for speaking. Weird, and/or naked.


Tom says [[Policy Wonks]] meeting next 5.30PM on Saturday.
Tom says Policy Wonks meeting next 5.30PM on Saturday.


[[Zine]] get together on Tuesday, Feb 14th -- next week, 6 to 8pm b4 the member meeting! [http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/02/07/18706878.php My Noisy Valentine:] Zine Release Microparty
Zine get together on Feb 14th -- next week! Be there!


=== Membership Binder ===
=== Membership Binder ===
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REMINDER: You may be awesome, but if you don't have sponsors, you can't be a member. Go meet people!
REMINDER: You may be awesome, but if you don't have sponsors.


=== Financial Report ===
=== Financial Report ===
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''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
We discuss Shannon's proposal to spend $100 out of noisebridge funds to buy more keys.


Shannon: I believe there is a larger discussion to have about
Shannon: I believe there is a larger discussion to have about
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in the space. Apparently he was here last night. This has come about because of increasing levels of extremeness.
in the space. Apparently he was here last night. This has come about because of increasing levels of extremeness.


Corey -- last week, a couple of weeks before, there has been increased weapons play -- staves and etc. It made me very uncomfortable when people were swinging around swords. Should we ask that weapons not be brandished at NB. There was one guy marching around with a bokken.
Corey -- last week, a couple of weeks before, there has been increased weapons play -- staves and etc. It made me very uncomfortable when people were swinging around swords. Should we ask that weapons not be brandished at NB. There was one guy marching around bokin.


Christina -- I have a thought related to the amount of people
Christina -- I have a thought related to the amount of people
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Jorgen -- the door is jammed open, so talk of the buzzer is misguided.
Jorgen -- the door is jammed open, so talk of the buzzer is misguided.


Leif -- 1) I don't think membership is a good criteria for who
Leif -- 1) I don't think membership is a good idea for who
lets people in. 2) I don't think the camera is a good idea
lets people in. 2) I don't think the camera is a good idea
-- because what does it solve? Also: I've heard lots of reports of people saying they rang the buzzer, and couldn't get in.  
-- because what does it solve? I've heard lots of reports of people saying that I rang the buzzer, and couldn't get in. Leif will fill in the rest of the stuff.


Jake -- Shannon and everyone else agrees on a bunch of
Jake -- Shannon and everyone else agrees on a bunch of
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Tom wants to propose a consensus item.  
Tom wants to propose a consensus item.  


Jared wanted to talk about access control.
Jerod wanted to talk about access control.


Shannon wants to talk about access control.
Shannon wants to talk about access control.
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SuperQ notes that we can revoke the keys.
SuperQ notes that we can revoke the keys.


Jared -- I think that there needs to be a balance and making
Jerod -- I think that there needs to be a balance and making
the space accessible to newcomers that are awesome. If you
the space accessible to newcomers that are awesome. If you
had to know someone to get in here, I'd not be here. I think
had to know someone to get in here, I'd not be here. I think
a compromise would be access control that is open during
a compromise would be access control that is open during
peak hours to walkins, but more restricted later in the evening.
peak hours. In the later evenings, I'm against limiting
 
access to people with keys. I like Kelly's idea of the buzzercode system, than making the physical key lock.
access to people with keys. I like Kelly's idea of the buzzercode system, than making the physical key lock.


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Tom: We need CLEVER TECHNICAL SOLUTIONS to the problem that people don't want to let people in, but let people in.
Tom: We need CLEVER TECHNICAL SOLUTIONS to the problem that people don't want to let people in, but let people in.


Leif -- a list of people coming in, or a timelog, we shouldn't be keeping more data. We should be keeping a good example. I don't want there to be a log of when I come into NB. The premise of a CCTV is based on a bad premise of being able to recognise people through a TV whether they're good or not. Talked about [http://thewhereblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/paradox-of-false-positive.html The Paradox of the False Positive].
Leif -- a list of people coming in, or a timelog, we shouldn't be keeping more data. We should be keeping a good example. I don't want there to be a log of when I come into NB. The premise of a CCTV is based on a bad premise of being able to recognise people through a TV whether they're good or not.


Eric -- agrees that bad people aren't recognisable.  Should have off button.
Eric -- agrees that bad people aren't recognisable.  Should have off button.
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in the door.
in the door.


Daniella: About the camera, I understand they don't like
Daniella: About the cameara, I understand they don't like
it. Ask what their name is. It's very rare that we turn people down, but if.
it. Ask what their name is. It's very rare that we turn people down, but if someone says.


WillS: Can we please mail their picture to nb-discuss.
WillS: Can we please mail their picture to nb-discuss.
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