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=== Consensus items === That Noisebridge pays money out of general funds for a cleaner for a trial period of three months, the price thereof to be determined at the consensus meeting. ''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] page.)'' The nearest quote we had was Claudia's old quote for $115 for mopping the floor and clean the kitchen space. Rubin's previous $120 sandwich budget to get volunteers to clean was mentioned. It was raised that volunteer labor is better, and builds a better relationship, and that paid cleaning might diminish that. Robert expanded on his plans -- 7 or eight mops! Make it quicker and more fun! Also signs, laser-cut! It was noted that the laser-cutter's belt is currently broken, but being replaced. Shannon noted that these dicussions regularly occur, we all agree to do it, and then bitter disillusionment follows. We should follow our core competency, which is apparently not cleaning. Mitch felt that lots of people are coming through and that was increasing the amount of unnoticed mess. Jason felt that even people who are traditionally against paying people should consense on it this one time, just to have a bit of competitive in the options. Stig talked about Hacker Dojo's experience; he felt that Noisebridge was more social, so should be able to succeed with a communal solution. Sebastian explained the CCC solution that each member did one hour of cleaning a quarter. Shannon asked how this was audited, and came up with some ingenious ways that he would exploit such a system. The Timebank people suggested that maybe their [http://www.timebanks.org/] might be able to help manage such a communal system. Mitch proposed two parallel system, one led by Robert, and one led through a funding. Robert offered a compromise: more mops, and the month be optional. Kelly said hey let's try the cleaner for a few months. Miloh said the cleaner wants consistency. Robert said okay, let's try it for a couple of months, and I'll do the alternative. Everyone worried about Robert burning out, except Robert. (Someone) said that maybe you could pay the volunteers in Timebank hours. Robert said things were easier now things were cleared up a bit. A donation was collected for Robert's cleaning materials, and obtained $72. We discussed a potential massive amount, Aestetix suggested that the amount be proportional to Robert's collection. We settled on $160. Aestetix asked what the criteria would be for us being satisfied with the cleaning. It was felt that the required consensus to continue after three months would be a sufficient criteria. Aestetix expressed his neutrality. We consensed.
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