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=== Start-Up Costs ===
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This section is for estimates of start-up costs. Story so far:
'''The weekly [[:Category:Meeting Notes|meeting notes]] have more recent financial information than this page.'''


* Move-in cost for space (assume 3x month's rent) : $6000 assuming $2000/mo rent
=== Donation tracker ===
* Three months' rent reserve : $6000 assuming $2000/mo rent
* Cost of incorporation as non-profit/LLC/whatever (if we do that) : ??
* Initial insurance cost : ??
* Initial cost for drinks to sell : ?? (May be zero due to Club Mate donations?)
* Initial cost for space improvements, making keys, etc. : ??
* Noisebridge Costco card (if desired vs. some members buying on their own) : $50
* Initial equipment costs (not including donations) : ??


Estimate so far for start-up cost: $12050 + ??.  
[http://cha-ching.noisebridge.net/ cha-ching.noisebridge.net] tracks donations to Noisebridge via PayPal. RSS and JSON feeds of recent donations are available.
 
[[DavidMolnar]] ideally would like to see 2x whatever this estimated number is as
starting capital, but that may be overkill.


=== Monthly Expenses and Dues ===
=== Monthly Expenses and Dues ===


SWAG at monthly expenses:
'''[[Donate or Pay Dues| Click here for info on how to pay your Membership Dues]].'''
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* $2k rent (nets ~1k sq ft)
Over the past year, our monthly income has been averaged $4,600, while our monthly expenses are estimated to be $6,550 going forward. Unless something changes soon, '''we will be bankrupt in August'''. The following is an approximate breakdown of our monthly expenses:
* $300 utilities (I'm TOTALLY making this up just to have a number, not even sure what all I mean it to include)
** PG&E, Water? (shared w/ NoStarch?), trash/recycling, insurance split over a year, ISP (I recommend sonic.net)
* $100 misc (toilet paper, juice, resistors)


Expected Costs for buying drinks: ? (Check CostCo prices)
{| border="0"
Expected Revenue from selling drinks: ? (Next number tells us what this is ; )
! Typical monthly amount
Expected Profit from selling drinks: ~300-800$
! Expense category
 
! Notes
'''Q.''' (by [[DavidMolnar]] editing w/o logged in): Is this realistic? metalab clears this much, but assuming we can come out of the gate and obtain the same revenue seems optimistic.<br/>
|-
'''A.''' Yeah, 300$ is very realistic - that's like 8 drinks per day sold at a $1.2 profit. Our initial calculations were without drinks too because we didn't believe it. But we had huge sales really quickly. People tend to drink a lot while hanging around at a Hacker Space. --[[User:Enki|Enki]] 12:33, 18 January 2008 (PST)
|$3,960.00
 
|Rent
total $2100
|Up from $3600 last year
 
|-
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"
|$789.08
! number of members
|Tor Project
! monthly dues
|Self-supporting but income is counted in our totals
|-  
|-
| 10
|$526.18
| $210
|Utilities
|-  
|Will add more info.
| 20
|-
| $105
|$235.35
|Accounting
|Mostly CPA fees for dealing with the state
|-
|$192.33
|Garbage & Recycling
|Twice weekly pickup is more expensive
|-
|$189.29
|Printing
|T-shirts and stickers
|-
|$183.48
|Insurance
|An annual expense
|-
|-
| 40
|$180.38
| $52
|Internet
|Monkeybrains and Sonic
|-
|-
| 60
|$161.40
| $35
|Water
|SFPUC
|-
|-
| 80
|$104.74
| $30
|Bank Fees
|Mostly paypal
|-
|-
| 100
|$25.33
| $21
|Misc
|PO box, misc 2169 repair supplies
|}
|}
=== Committed So Far ===
We have collected the following money:
* $221 at meeting, held by Mitch Altman
Total in hand: $221
We have the following pledges:
* [[DavidMolnar]] up to $150/mo and $1500 start-up
* [[User:Arcanology | Al Billings]] up to $150/mo and $500 start-up.
Total pledged: $300/mo , $2000 start-up

Revision as of 01:40, 25 February 2014

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The weekly meeting notes have more recent financial information than this page.

Donation tracker

cha-ching.noisebridge.net tracks donations to Noisebridge via PayPal. RSS and JSON feeds of recent donations are available.

Monthly Expenses and Dues

Click here for info on how to pay your Membership Dues.

Over the past year, our monthly income has been averaged $4,600, while our monthly expenses are estimated to be $6,550 going forward. Unless something changes soon, we will be bankrupt in August. The following is an approximate breakdown of our monthly expenses:

Typical monthly amount Expense category Notes
$3,960.00 Rent Up from $3600 last year
$789.08 Tor Project Self-supporting but income is counted in our totals
$526.18 Utilities Will add more info.
$235.35 Accounting Mostly CPA fees for dealing with the state
$192.33 Garbage & Recycling Twice weekly pickup is more expensive
$189.29 Printing T-shirts and stickers
$183.48 Insurance An annual expense
$180.38 Internet Monkeybrains and Sonic
$161.40 Water SFPUC
$104.74 Bank Fees Mostly paypal
$25.33 Misc PO box, misc 2169 repair supplies